Tapping into the occult and playing right into the Devil’s hands

I can testify to the things expressed in this video by Andrew Strom who declares the prophetic movement to be false and to not line up with the bible.  I have attended a couple of similar things myself here in the UK one of them led by one of the men spoken of on this video, and can confirm that this stuff goes on and Christians are following it by the thousands.  The extent to which people are being deceived and blinded is one that I was not fully aware of and I am sitting here trembling as I realise how close I myself came to being a part of it.  As a Christian who is very interested in the prophetic, I have found this video extremely disturbing, but also I realise the need of this hour for Christians and non-Christians to see things for what they truly are and this is why I am publishing the video here as unpleasant and upsetting as it is to have to admit that this stuff goes on in supposedly Christian circles amongst supposedly Christian people.  If the content of the video speaks to you, go to Andrew Strom’s website where you will find some very interesting articles which back up what he states on this video. http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/2010/04/10/articles/. A very interesting article is:

 http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/2010/04/19/why-i-left-the-prophetic-movement/,

and part 2 on:

 http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/2010/04/21/part-2-why-i-left-the-prophetic-movement/

In all of this, we must never forget that Christ will continue to build His Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

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10 thoughts on “Tapping into the occult and playing right into the Devil’s hands

  1. Like all restoration movements, the Prophetic Movement started off in the Spirit and has now ended up in the flesh. Why? Because ministries need to raise money and exaggerated hype sells. And when it comes to hype, the prophetic movement can do it best.

    How sad it is for me that some of the people who are caught up in some of this are people I’ve studied and use as examples in my teachings. But one thing I’ve learned over the years, whether it’s with the Latter Rain or Word of Faith or Healing movements, don’t throw it the good out with the bad. Use discernment.

    Now, do I believe the mistakes of the Prophetic Movement will hinder the real prophets God is raising up? No. The real prophetic anointing from God overwhelms such false ones every time.

    • Dear Larry,

      You sum up what I feel about this very well:

      “How sad it is for me that some of the people who are caught up in some of this are people I’ve studied and use as examples in my teachings. But one thing I’ve learned over the years, whether it’s with the Latter Rain or Word of Faith or Healing movements, don’t throw it the good out with the bad. Use discernment.”

      Thank you.

      X

      Mercedes

  2. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary, that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which faith, except everyone do keep entire and inviolate, without doubt he will perish everlastingly.

    Now the Catholic Faith is this; that we worship One God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the substance.

    For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all One; the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal.

    Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, the Holy Ghost uncreate. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal. As also they are not three uncreates, nor three incomprehensibles; but one uncreate, and one incomprehensible. In like manner the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty. And yet not three almighties, but one almighty.

    So the Father is God, the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Ghost is Lord. And yet they are not three Lords, but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord; so we are forbidden by the Catholic religion, to say there are three Gods, or three Lords.

    The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is from the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is from the Father and the Son, not made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity, there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less; but the whole three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal.

    So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity is to be worshipped in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity. He, therefore, that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.

    Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now the right faith is, that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and Man.

    He is God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the world; and He is man of the substance of His mother, born in the world; Perfect God and perfect man; of reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father according to His Godhead; and less than the Father according to His Manhood.

    Who, although He be both God and Man, yet He is not two, but one Christ; One, not by the conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by the taking of the Manhood unto God; One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and the flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ.

    Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven; He sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give an account of their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire.

    This is the Catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully and steadfastly, he cannot be be saved.

    Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost. Amen.

  3. Dear Traditional Catholic,

    Firstly, thank you for stopping by on my site.I always give thanks to God for new voices and new faces on my blog.

    Of course, You are free to leave such a comment on my site, but I want to publicly declare that though I was brought up as a Catholic, being taught to memorise to the letter all the things you write on your comment, I no longer believe in any affiliation, denomination or differentiation within the Christian faith, specially when it seeks to establish itself as supreme and superior over the rest, purely and simply because:

    1. NOWHERE in the Bible we find such doctrine that says that: “This is the Catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully and steadfastly, he cannot be saved.”
    2. Jesus Christ called all His followers, The Church, Christian brothers and sisters to UNITY, to be one as He and the Father are ONE.

    It is interesting that the core of your comment speaks of the unity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which I too believe in, and yet in the same comment you go on to say that unless one is a Catholic, one cannot be saved. Can’t you see that in stating something like that which is unbiblical you are creating one of the many divides which is breaking The Body of Christ into a thousand different pieces, disabling it and making it ineffective to bring the love of Christ into the world, and a credible testimony to those who watch us from the outside?
    iT IS ONLY BY BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST AND ALLOWING THE HOLY SPIRIT TO DO A WORK OF REPENTANCE, RENEWAL AND SANCTIFICATION IN US THAT WE ARE SAVED. Catholicism is not the way, the truth and the life. JESUS IS. CATHOLICISM OR ANY OTHER RELIGION, AFFILIATION, CHURCH OR DENOMINATION ARE NOT THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, JESUS CHRIST ALONE IS.
    Acts 16, 30-31
    John 14, 6
    Acts 4, 10-12
    John 3, 16-18, 36

    There are dozens of scriptures like this. Please take the time to read them and seek God with all you have.

    To anyone who still today maintains one affiliation or denomination within Christianity, I implore you to please read the Bible again and again. Forget about trying to establish a set of rules and dogmas to put your beliefs above everyone else’s and to exert control and fear over people. Instead seek and cherish the core teachings of Jesus Christ and use those to unite you with your brothers and sisters and not to make war with them. The times ahead will require this if we are going to function and serve the world as the light of Jesus Christ that engulfs the darkness.We are in a spiritual war. We fight against powers and principalities and unless we come together in unity to fight these, we will not survive the onslaught. I am a Christian who although often fails, strives to follow Jesus BUT NEVER RELIGION.

  4. A very wise man once told me “there is truth in all religion; it is when truth is taken to extreme that it becomes heresy”. The problem with any movement is people are so hungry for a deeper walk with God that they jump in the water before they take a measure of its content. My sister, whom I believe to be one of the most spiritually discerning people I have ever known, told me years ago to “eat the fish and throw away the bones”. We need the help of Holy Spirit to differentiate the truth from the counterfeit in many parts of this movement, including the words of the author of this video.

    Keep up the good work Mercedes.

    Dave
    http://dadtalk.wordpress.com

  5. Hi Dave,

    Thank you very much indeed.

    Can you elaborate a bit more? In your statement at the end of the comment you seem to put into question Andrew Strom’s message in his video. If that is the case, I would like to know why.

    I have only just made this gentleman’s acquaintance through his blog but I have known you for a long time now and I respect you and trust your discernment, so it would be helpful to me to know where you are coming from.

    Thanks Dave

  6. I recognize and respect this author’s need to put out the call but my spirit recoils from the accusatory nature of this documentary. It lacks any measure of love and is judgmental in tone.

    If we look at the secular media we see the same type of story telling. Any story can be told with the right pictures and words.

    I believe we need to search out the truth in any message, seek its relationship to both the Rhema and Logos word, and the truth will be confirmed many times over.

    Do not cast everyone in this documentary with the same light. In the larger picture, sometimes only known to God, the story may be vastly different.

    I hope this helps.
    Dave

  7. It does help. Thank you Dave. I have to say, however, that my spirit recoils slightly more at some of what I see in the video which I know to be true as I have witnessed it.

    I do take your point nonetheless about not casting everyone with the same light. We are not to judge for only God truly knows what goes on, but we have a responsibility, have we not, to call things what they are and to expose error which has multiplied in such scale and continues to spread.

    Mercedes

  8. Yes, we have that responsibility and we must be judicious in how we use it. For as the word says, the power of life and death is in the tongue. We must guard against the apostate church in these last days but we must not be like the foolish brides maids who missed the wedding because they were distracted with finding enough oil to fill their lamps. Keep our eyes focused on the way from which the bride groom will come but bring enough oil to last the night.

    Blessings
    Dave

  9. Hi again Dave,

    I am blessed to have fellowship with individuals like you who never lose sight of what the gospel is truly about.

    I thank God for you a million times over, and I thank God that He will never leave me nor forsake me. Your grace, counsel and wisdom are testimony to that.

    God bless you

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